In this episode Joel meets Ryan Flanigan on the release day of the new Liturgical Folk album, 'Matins & Vespers'. They talk about songwriting, melodies, family, friends and more. Song clips in the episode are 'On Tabor' from 'Edenland', 'Delight in the Lord' from 'Lent', and 'Liam the Confessor', 'Keep the Feast' and 'Keep Watch' from 'Matins and Vespers'.