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Podcasts

The RESOUNDworship Songwriting Podcast is designed to equip, train and inspire grass-roots worship songwriters in local churches. Joel Payne and Sam Hargreaves discuss songwriting technique, analyse classic worship songs, interview established writers and present a featured song. All to help you become a better worship songwriter!

Also available on iTunes and via the usual podcast apps - search for "The Resound Worship Songwriting Podcast".
Ep 32 - Interview Special: Rachel Wilhelm
In this episode Sam meets Minneapolis-based worship leader and songwriter, Rachel Wilhelm. They discuss lament, doubt, fear and how they belong together in worship. Rachel talks about recording an album, the way her own journey of lament has shaped and informed her songwriting and how she uses scripture as the basis for expressing lament in song. Includes a live performance and a preview track from her forthcoming album.
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Ep 31 - Finishing and sharing a song
In this episode, Joel and Sam eat humble pie on some Bible knowledge, discuss the difference between a song and a hymn, welcome a guest classic-song-dissecter in Rupert Packard, review month two of the Song Cycle and discuss how to finish and share a song for month three. The featured songs is 'Hallelujah, Christ is risen' by Chris Pearse. [More links to things mentioned at www.resoundworship.org/podcast]
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Ep 30 - Interview Special: Aaron Keyes
Joel meets Aaron Keyes and they discuss worship pastors, discipleship, scripture, songwriting, and passing on the baton from one generation to the next. Aaron describes how, with Jesus, it's a 'race to the bottom' not a 'pyramid of celebrity' and how his work and ministry is built around squashing that pyramid and building a new culture.
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Ep 29 - Developing your first attempt
Sam and Joel introduce phase two of the Song Cycle as they discuss how to develop a song idea in the workshop, they review and respond to January's 'first ideas', they dissect the classic song 'How great is our God', they respond to a blog post by Malcolm du Plessis, they suggest distraction tactics for when your mind goes blank while preaching and Sam compares Joel's attempt at an American accent to his children playing with Lego. The featured song is 'High in the heavens' by Judy Gresham. [More links and notes at www.resoundworship.org/podcast]
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Ep 28 - Interview Special: Jeremy Perigo
Joel meets Jeremy Perigo, Director of Music and Worship Programmes at London School of Theology. They talk culture, colonialism, coffee, community and congregational song. Jeremy shares his experiences in helping to develop indigenous worship expressions in cross-cultural settings, his take on what's hot in academic worship studies at the moment, and thoughts on how worship songwriters can study theology and apply it successfully to their songwriting. The featured track is 'The Benediction' by Jeremy Perigo, feat. Scott Pazera. [More links and notes at www.resoundworship.org/podcast]
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Ep 27 - Inspiration and ideas (Song Cycle)
In the first episode of 2017 Sam and Joel launch the new Song & Hymn Writers Foundation, dissect the classic song 'I will offer up my life', review the year long 12-song challenge, share their attempts in the two-line challenge and introduce the Song Cycle for 2017, with a special focus on inspiration and ideas. The featured song is 'O faithful Lord' by Mark Bradford. [further notes and links at www.resoundworship.org/podcast]
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Ep 26 - Performance vs Participation
In the final episode before Christmas, Sam and Joel discuss in-depth the 'Is evangelical worship headed for a huge crash?' blog post that has been doing the rounds recently, exploring the relationship of performance and participation; they catch up on the November Advent challenge; they set a new 'two-line' challenge for December; and they propose both a ten-commandments and a beatitudes of congregational song writing. [Books and links mentioned are listed at www.resoundworship.org/podcast and the featured song is 'In the beginning' by Joel Payne]
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Ep 25 - Interview Special: Isaac Wardell
Joel meets Isaac Wardell, founder and creative director of Bifrost Arts. They talk about Isaac's songwriting, the new and different directions he has been taking worship music through Bifrost, the need to experience other styles and forms and to write for your own congregation, the unhelpful segregation of traditional and contemporary, the breadth of worshipping 'standards' across the church, and how he recorded a successful album for under $1000. [Song clips from 'Lamentations' album: 'How long'; 'Rise up' & 'Psalm 126 Live at Hope College'] [Links at www.resoundworship.org/podcast ]
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Ep 24 - Advent songs
In this episode Sam and Joel catch up on October, the 50th anniversary event, meeting Radzi from Blue Peter and Timothy Dudley Smith, the impact of pioneering guitarists and more; they dissect the modern classic 'Praise is rising'; they review the October Spring Harvest challenge; and they discuss how to write songs for Advent. The featured song is 'You bring peace' by Sam Hargreaves.
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Ep 23 - Interview Special: Brian Doerksen
Joel meets Canadian songwriter Brian Doerksen and they discuss his songwriting journey, the unusual beginnings of 'Refiner's Fire', the personal impact of writing a song like 'Faithful One', his work with the British Vineyard churches, the triangle of songwriting, the 'dance', liminality, prosody, the Psalms, God-given seeds and so much more. [Song clip: 'How long (Psalm 13)'; featured song: 'Safe (Psalm 20)' both from 'Songs for the Journey Vol 2' by the Shiyr Poets]
Ep 22 - Songs of unity and mission
In this episode Joel & Sam dissect newcomer to the CCLI Top 25 'This is amazing grace'; review the September liturgy challenge; introduce the Spring Harvest challenge for October; coin the word "skeghead"; react to Resound's nomination in the Premier New Media Awards; discuss the theological significance of John 17; and share an exclusive pre-release version of Resound's newest song by Chris Juby. All in under an hour!
Ep 21 - Interview Special: Peter Nevland
Sam meets spoken word artist Peter Nevland and together they discuss coffee, spoken groove, delving deep into the psalms, releasing the limits of lyrical creativity, sabbatical rest and much more. [Audio clips in order: Let the King of glory in - Peter Nevland & Co Feat Graham Kendrick; Do not trust Barack Obama - Peter Nevland]
Ep 20 - Liturgy Songs
Joel & Sam return after taking August off and jump in with both feet, tackling the theology of God's sovereignty and the use of wisdom literature in songs while dissecting the classic song 'Blessed be your name'; they look ahead to the Jubilate and Resound 50th anniversary event on 15 October; they review the July & August challenges and launch the September challenge - liturgy songs; the featured song is 'May the Lord bless you' by Sam Hargreaves.
Ep 19 - Interview Special: Malcolm du Plessis
In this episode Joel meet Malcolm du Plessis from Common Exchange, a movement aiming to revive the concept of the 'priesthood of all believers' especially where worship songwriting is concerned. They talk about Malcolms roots fusing protest and worship in his native South Africa, his role bridging the gap between British and American music and worship publishers, and his new goal of discovering and giving a platform to songwriters outside the mainstream, from all over the world. [Song clips in order: Strong and Able by Matt Macauley; Heaven's Declaration by Mark Alan Schoolmeesters, Chase Wagner, Johan Åsgärde, Oliver Lundström; Love that will not let me go by Paul Duncan; Come and tear down the walls by Jenny Wahlström and Mark Alan Schoolmeesters]
Ep 18 - Interview Special: Bruce Benedict
In this episode Sam meets Bruce Benedict from Cardiphonia, They talk about new settings of old hymns, the use of liturgical elements in songwriting and the need for songs that connect with real-life, particularly in the area of vocation - the theme of Cardophonia's current songwriting contest. (Audio clips in order: Come thou everlasting Spirit - Bruce Benedict; Psalm 136 - Caroline Cobb; Psalm 118 - Wen Reagan; Arise, shine for your light has come - Jared McKenna; Mystery of faith - Crossing Music)
Ep 17 - All-age & kids songs (live at Worship Songwriting Retreat)
Recorded live at the Worship Songwriting Retreat in Yorkshire with guest co-host, Geraldine Luce. In this episode, Joel talks to Geraldine, Jo and Judy about their collaborative songwriting group, the WSR delegates dissect the classic song 'Faithful One', and Sam launches the July challenge - All-age and kids songs - with a vodcast from Sweden. Plus there's an impromptu house band to accompany proceedings.
Ep 16 - Interview Special: Nigel Hemming & Damian Herbert
Sam meets Nigel Hemming, writer of 'Great Big God' and Damian Herbert from BIG Ministries. Together they talk about songwriting, kids songs and albums, all-age worship, actions and more. Nigel shares from his experience playing on and producing Vineyard albums like 'Hungry' and tells the story behind his big song. Damian unpacks the “All-In Thing” and reveals the influence of Busted on his writing...
Ep 15 - Holy Spirit Songs & Recording a Demo
In this jam-packed episode, Joel and Sam dissect the classic song 'My Jesus my Saviour'; Joel describes his experiences of guide-running in relation to songwriting; Sam proposes jingles for church services; they both look back on the May challenge and set a new one for June of Holy Spirit songs; and Matt Osgood joins them for the workshop to talk about how to record a demo. The featured song is 'Those who hope' by David Casswell.
Ep 14 - Interview Special: Greg de Blieck
Joel talks to Greg de Blieck from New Scottish Hymns as they prepare to launch their new album, 'We shall all be changed'. They discuss cultural influences on worship styles, the ways that hymns can feed and inspire, and much more about the songwriting and recording process. They also compare notes on playing in ceilidh bands (Greg has much more experience...).
Ep 13 - Lively praise songs
Sam has had a month of prolific songwriting, he and Joel compare notes on Spring Harvest 2016, Joel shares his plans to discover clergy-hymnwriters, they both dissect the classic song 'Give thanks to the Lord', while also reviewing the April challenge and setting the challenge for May. The Workshop is all about lively praise songs and the featured song is the brand new 'Oh what a friend'.
Ep 12 - Interview Special: Sue Rinaldi
In this episode, Joel meets songwriter, worship leader, recording artist, writer, thinker and label manager, Sue Rinaldi. They talk about her eclectic life and her journey through the music scene from her first contact with the church, to an appearance on top of the pop, through to becoming one the first in the new wave of worship songwriters and leaders, write through to managing a label and recruiting and nurturing new talent.
Ep 11 - Easter Songs
In this episode, Sam and Joel reflect on their Easter experiences - twigs, chocolates and all; they dissect the classic song 'How great thou art' with a significant Swedish spin; they review the March challenge, featuring a song by one of the participants; Mark Bradford joins them to talk about his new book, 'Encountering the risen Christ' and to help prepare for the April challenge - Easter Songs, taking in the post-resurrection encounters, the hope of personal transformation and holiness, and the cosmic consequences that stretch beyond the Easter season. And throughout, Joel cannot remember whether it is March or April. The featured song is 'Come, see the Son' by Joel Payne.
Ep 10 - Interview Special: Dan & Matt Weeks
In this Interview Special, Joel talks to record producers Dan & Matt Weeks, the creative brains behind Resound's 'Christmas Songs' album. Together they attempt to demystify the recording process and address the pros and cons of the 'worship sound' found on so many recordings. Dan & Matt describe the influence that their own roles in their congregations has on their work in the studio and their own passion for resourcing the local church. The featured song for this episode is 'Here I stand (Grace alone)' by Ben Atkins.
Ep 9 - Texts and tunes
Joel and Sam reflect on another month of the 12 Song Challenge, playing their own efforts and reviewing some of the contributions and songs of listeners. They take a closer look at Jonas Myrin and Matt Redman's new classic, '10,000 Reasons', and they launch a new challenge for March based on Stuart Townend and Keith Getty's songwriting partnership - texts and tunes. In the workshop they discuss how to approach writing a song in two independent parts and fit them together. The featured song is 'On the Darkest Day' by Matt Osgood.
Ep 8 - Interview Special: Stuart Townend
In this episode, Joel meets internationally renowned worship songwriter Stuart Townend. They discuss the beginnings of his songwriting journey, his progression into hymn-writing and his fruitful partnership with Keith Getty. Stuart talks about his more recent use of folk music sounds and styles, and between them they invent worship-songwriter-speed-dating. The show kicks off with Sam and Joel comparing their favourite Townend songs.
Ep 7 - Songs of community
In this episode we review the first month of our 12 Song Challenge. Sam and Joel pick out a song each from the participants, as well as sharing their own efforts. They launch the February challenge - Songs of community - discussing what makes a good, participatory, church community song. The featured song is 'Here is bread' by Mark Bradford.
Ep 6 - Interview Special: Ruth King Goddard
In this Interview Special, Joel meets Seattle-based worship pastor and music development specialist, Ruth King Goddard. Ruth brings her many years experience coaching and encouraging those who believe they can't sing, along with her life as a songwriter and worship pastor, to address the question of why so many people aren't singing in church. Her answers are insightful, practical and at times surprising. The episode kicks off with a mid-month review of January's task in the 12 Song Challenge.
Ep 5 - Song micro-structure and Geraldine Latty (Part 2)
Sam is away so Matt Osgood takes his place in the co-host chair. Joel shares his opening attempts for the 12 Song Challenge, 'Strength will rise (Everlasting God)' is dissected, and Matt guides us through songwriting micro-structure in the Workshop - with chiasms and parallelisms aplenty. We round off with the second half of our interview with Geraldine Latty, and 'You say (Trust in the Lord)' is the featured song.
Ep 4 - Song structure and Geraldine Latty (Part 1)
It's the launch of the '12 Song Challenge', with January's task to write a song from scripture. 'Be still for the presence of the Lord' is the classic song coming under the microscope, the Workshop covers song structure, and Sam interviews Geraldine Latty (Luce).
Ep 3 - Mining a theme and Graham Kendrick (Part 2)
'Mining a theme' is the topic of choice in the workshop, 'Mighty to Save' is the classic song under the scalpel, Joel begins discussing his 2016 songwriting resolutions and Sam concludes his interview with captain Graham Kendrick.
Ep 2 - Collaboration and Graham Kendrick (Part 1)
In this episode Sam and Joel talk all about collaboration, what it is and how you can make it work in a songwriting group. They dissect the classic song 'Light of the World', Joel admits he doesn't really know what Vivaldi's Gloria is about, and Sam interviews the father of modern British worship music, Graham Kendrick.
Ep 1 - Christmas
Joel and Sam discuss everything Christmas for worship songwriting. Sam is broadcasting from a stable, they dissect the classic carol 'Hark the herald' to see what makes it work and suggest some ways to incorporate it into contemporary worship, and they share some tips on writing a new Christmas worship song in The Workshop.